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	<title>Comments on: Becoming a Web Designer</title>
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	<description>The Pixels &#38; Prose of Chuck Mallott</description>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://oaktreecreative.com/entries/becoming-a-web-designer/comment-page-1/#comment-662</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 08:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Chuck,

After stumbling on your post I was wondering - where would a complete beginner start? Let me elaborate - I&#039;m a (graduated) full-time web developer, as in I&#039;m more of a programmer than a designer. Lately however, I&#039;ve been thinking of making the switch to design. Thing is, I have had no real training or education on subjects like &quot;design principles&quot; or how to make things aesthetically pleasing.

So in your opinion, where would one in such a situation start? I keep track of several blogs and forums, but its just not enough; I see this when in my designs which lacks any kind of visual structure for example.

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chuck,</p>
<p>After stumbling on your post I was wondering &#8211; where would a complete beginner start? Let me elaborate &#8211; I&#8217;m a (graduated) full-time web developer, as in I&#8217;m more of a programmer than a designer. Lately however, I&#8217;ve been thinking of making the switch to design. Thing is, I have had no real training or education on subjects like &#8220;design principles&#8221; or how to make things aesthetically pleasing.</p>
<p>So in your opinion, where would one in such a situation start? I keep track of several blogs and forums, but its just not enough; I see this when in my designs which lacks any kind of visual structure for example.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Les</title>
		<link>http://oaktreecreative.com/entries/becoming-a-web-designer/comment-page-1/#comment-653</link>
		<dc:creator>Les</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great point about deconstructing other&#039;s work and about always looking to revamp your own work. I find that to often this get&#039;s overlooked.

I would add one point to your article and that is be flexible. Be willing to change your design perspective. Just because a design works once doesn&#039;t mean it will work everytime. Be willing to shake things up and go out on a limb once and awhile.

LB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point about deconstructing other&#8217;s work and about always looking to revamp your own work. I find that to often this get&#8217;s overlooked.</p>
<p>I would add one point to your article and that is be flexible. Be willing to change your design perspective. Just because a design works once doesn&#8217;t mean it will work everytime. Be willing to shake things up and go out on a limb once and awhile.</p>
<p>LB</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
		<link>http://oaktreecreative.com/entries/becoming-a-web-designer/comment-page-1/#comment-652</link>
		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jef - thanks for the comments. I hope my post doesn&#039;t get lumped in with the Top 10 list fluff articles on smashing mag because that&#039;s exactly what I was trying not to do. I didn&#039;t want to come out and say, &quot;This is what you need to do!&quot; because there is no one way. I could tell you how I got there, but that probably isn&#039;t the best way for you.

My point was more this - whichever way you decide to go about becoming a web designer, here are three things that will help you as you go.

While I agree that reading, listening and practicing can help you in just about any profession, I don&#039;t think that there are many professions out there that require little else. I certainly couldn&#039;t become a doctor if all I did was read about it, attend conferences and practice on my friends. I would need education and certification. That may be an extreme example, but there are many other examples (Real Estate Agent, Architect, Insurance Underwriter, Interior Designer, etc.) Heck, you can&#039;t even become a [viable] project manager without some sort of certification.

And no worries - I didn&#039;t take your comments as harsh. Thanks for participating in the conversation. I hope I was able to make my points somewhat more clear. Take luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jef &#8211; thanks for the comments. I hope my post doesn&#8217;t get lumped in with the Top 10 list fluff articles on smashing mag because that&#8217;s exactly what I was trying not to do. I didn&#8217;t want to come out and say, &#8220;This is what you need to do!&#8221; because there is no one way. I could tell you how I got there, but that probably isn&#8217;t the best way for you.</p>
<p>My point was more this &#8211; whichever way you decide to go about becoming a web designer, here are three things that will help you as you go.</p>
<p>While I agree that reading, listening and practicing can help you in just about any profession, I don&#8217;t think that there are many professions out there that require little else. I certainly couldn&#8217;t become a doctor if all I did was read about it, attend conferences and practice on my friends. I would need education and certification. That may be an extreme example, but there are many other examples (Real Estate Agent, Architect, Insurance Underwriter, Interior Designer, etc.) Heck, you can&#8217;t even become a [viable] project manager without some sort of certification.</p>
<p>And no worries &#8211; I didn&#8217;t take your comments as harsh. Thanks for participating in the conversation. I hope I was able to make my points somewhat more clear. Take luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Jef</title>
		<link>http://oaktreecreative.com/entries/becoming-a-web-designer/comment-page-1/#comment-651</link>
		<dc:creator>Jef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 13:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading my post again, I found it might sound a bit harsh, so my apologies in advance if it is - no offence intended :]

While your points are certainly true, I feel they can somewhat be applied to about any profession out there.
Don&#039;t get me wrong - I&#039;m not flaming, I agree 100% with you, but I can&#039;t help wondering if there isn&#039;t &quot;something more concrete&quot;, sort of like a &quot;plan&quot; if you can box it like that. While this is certainly vague (and ironic), I think that&#039;s also the reason that the 10,000 lists of X about Y you see going around on smashingmagazine or net-tuts: It fills in the gap, the magic touch, the lack of &quot;that&#039;s it!&quot; that articles such as these describe. It basically says &quot;do this and you&#039;ll win&quot;, although it could perhaps be lazyness of the person himself in the sense that (s)he doesn&#039;t have to find out the &quot;winning recipe&quot; anymore.

I&#039;d love to hear your thoughts about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading my post again, I found it might sound a bit harsh, so my apologies in advance if it is &#8211; no offence intended :]</p>
<p>While your points are certainly true, I feel they can somewhat be applied to about any profession out there.<br />
Don&#8217;t get me wrong &#8211; I&#8217;m not flaming, I agree 100% with you, but I can&#8217;t help wondering if there isn&#8217;t &#8220;something more concrete&#8221;, sort of like a &#8220;plan&#8221; if you can box it like that. While this is certainly vague (and ironic), I think that&#8217;s also the reason that the 10,000 lists of X about Y you see going around on smashingmagazine or net-tuts: It fills in the gap, the magic touch, the lack of &#8220;that&#8217;s it!&#8221; that articles such as these describe. It basically says &#8220;do this and you&#8217;ll win&#8221;, although it could perhaps be lazyness of the person himself in the sense that (s)he doesn&#8217;t have to find out the &#8220;winning recipe&#8221; anymore.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to hear your thoughts about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points. Another is not being afraid to take a lot of rejection. Thick skin is important. Remember, there are 1000 other web designers applying for the same job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points. Another is not being afraid to take a lot of rejection. Thick skin is important. Remember, there are 1000 other web designers applying for the same job.</p>
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